No More Plastic Bags?

Plastic bags are horrible. I can't wait for them to be gone forever!

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Plastic bags are awesome, although I've heard they are not too good for the environment :-(

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where they went completely bag-less at the beginning of this year

 For our future, or use Plastic Bags less

Although it is very convenient

For our future, or less use Plastic Bags
Although it is very convenient

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I like plastic bags. I reuse them to pick up my dogs' poop.

Seems like someone should mention that Whole Foods voluntarily eliminated all plastic bags some time ago. But I guess they are only worth mentioning when their CEO says something dumb.

Someone did. Read the Statesman report that this post references and links.

China outlawed them completely a few years ago. It sure seems we could do it here.

The cloth bags are nice, but I only go once a month and need too many. Why not a redesigned cart that holds a reusable bin that we can take home?

Maybe three bins vertical positions on a shopping cart, just pull them out when you get to your car.

I thought it was bad when people would say "In California, we did it this way. You should do that here."

Now we have someone putting forward fucking CHINA as a role model on things to outlaw here?

I know, it seems really weird, but China banned giving away plastic bags, California did not(well, many cities did). China routed 40% of their domestic stimulus money to green initiatives, California did not. I think we might need to get used to the fact that China is making a lot of effort and instituting rapid changes in this area. Google China Green Intitiative.

Maybe we should roll tanks over anyone who uses plastic bags. After all, they do that sort of thing in China, and they're like, super green.

Maybe we should also start building tons of coal power plants with minimal pollution controls. "China Green Initiatives" = "China Greenwashing".

They went bag-less in DC, or they charged people for bags? I'm all for reducing the amount of plastic bags used, and I personally always ask for paper for multiple reasons, but I think it's going a little far if the city government were to mandate H-E-B charges me 5 cents for every paper bag. I use those paper bags to collect recyclables in my house.

So in DC, they actually charge you 5 cents if you want to use any bag at all, from any place that sells food (this means 5 cents for take out bags, the pharmacy, etc). But all the money went to a local organization that is using it to clean up a nasty river in the bad part of town. Not to the government like a tariff would.

I know what you mean about reusing plastic and paper bags though. I use them for bathroom trash and recycle too. And I'd definitely get mad at myself when I forgot my bags! Oh, and as for @damix's comment... no one in DC shops only 1/month. Lots of people walk to their grocery store (not drive) and they buy what they can carry, so a few reusable bags work just fine.

Overall though, it did raise a lot of money to clean up the city, not to mention getting all those bags out of dumpsters.

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I'm in the same exact boat. I always opt for the paper variety when I forget my own bags at home or something, but don't really like the thought of imposing tariffs on something like this. If anything, people need to be educated more on the impact of their decisions -- then leave it up to them to decide.

IMO, H-E-B doesn't seem very motivated to stop using plastic. We usually remember our own bags, but when we do happen to forget them at home and ask for paper, they seem inconvenienced. I hate leaving with plastic bags!

I've definitely experienced people at H-E-B who seem really put out to have to bag your stuff into paper instead of plastic. I've also experienced (I think) clerks at Whole Foods who feel like by using a disposable bag at all, I'm not "green" enough. There was a scene in the ill-fated Mike Judge show, "The Goode Family" on this topic.

Yeah, not just the HEB. What floors me is that they stopped asking "paper or plastic."

As soon as people started to have an actual opinion about choosing paper over plastic, they stopped. They gave the impression of convenience and customer service, and then, when it was useful, they withdrew it.

Began to appear in order to facilitate the plastic bags, but now cause to the environment so big of pollution

We just moved to Austin from D.C. where they went completely bag-less at the beginning of this year. Grocers charge 5 cents for each bag you needed to use... They get to keep 1 cent, and the rest goes to a local river protection fund. I bet something similar would work here too.

http://www.welovedc.com/2010/03/30/dc-bag-tax-nets-150000-for-anacostia-river-clean-up/

While reusable bags would ideally replace the plastic ones, paper bags
made of at least 40 percent recycled content would be exempt under the
proposed ban,

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 Reactions from other City Council members ranged from non-responsive to calls for more details about the ban.

How the Alliance's proposal was received by City Hall was not
immediately clear; while Mayor Leffingwell stated he would not rule out a
ban, he thought the voluntary program did reduce plastic bag use.