Label Profile & Interview: Beats Broke Founder Ryan Goeller
After reading that and hearing rave reviews about the label’s Dutch hip hop (yes, you read it right) artist roster, we decided to dig deeper into the Beats Broke realm. We caught up with founder Ryan Goeller this week to learn more about his past, his Dutch connection, and the artists on his label.
Goeller met Skiggy Rapz in Holland in 2007 and considers Skiggy to be “the best English speaking rapper in Holland.” (Skiggy’s brand new record Bang To The Boogie EP had to be recalled last week due to an illegal sample.) Max Fischer and Inf are two artists that have helped Goeller shape the direction of the label -- Fischer is an old friend from Nebraska, “full of East Coast swagger,” and one of the best emcees Goeller has ever heard. “He can make the mundane sound fascinating,” adds Goeller. Inf “makes big sounding music from a really small studio setup” per Goeller and is one half of Kapabel & Inf. Beats Broke released the duo’s debut album in 2007. According to Goeller, “Kapabel spits tweaked-out fairy tales over Inf’s bizarre samples and the outcome is completely refreshing.” Arts The Beatdoctor and Pax & Pry are some other prominent Beats Broke artists at the moment.
Where are you from originally? What brought you to Austin?
I’m originally from a small farm in rural Nebraska. The nearest town, Pilger, was about 7 miles away and had a population of under 400 people. My grade school class had an average of 6 kids (4 boys and 2 girls). As you can imagine, it was a real music mecca.
During college, I was able to sneak away to Austin for a couple internships. I had a friend who lived here, and I took advantage of his floor to escape to a city. Once I got to Austin, I fell in love with it. As soon as I graduated, I took a one-way trip South and lived off a credit card until I could find a job.
Besides being the founder, what is your role at Beats Broke?
At this point, I pretty much am Beats Broke. I do it all single-handedly (Executive Producer, A&R, Marketing, Design, Distribution, Licensing). The only thing I don’t do is record. My goal is to build this up and bring in another person or two to really develop it properly. I’m smart enough to know that I can’t operate solo at 100%. I’d be holding everyone back, including myself.
I also have to admit that I have some fantastic artists who basically manage themselves. They come to me for advice sometimes, but they’re mostly self-sufficient in their own careers. We’re lucky enough to see eye to eye, which enables us to co-exist in our missions and work.
Did you always want to run a record label? When did you start Beats Broke and what were some of the obstacles you have encountered?
Since I was a teenager, I’ve always had a fantasy of working at a label. Though, for some reason I never thought I’d own one. Of course, back then, I had visions of hanging out backstage with Wu-Tang, and being interviewed by Rolling Stone. Now, I’m fighting for blog coverage and scraping for money. I’m still waiting to share beers with the RZA.
I started Beats Broke informally around 2004. We became a legal entity in the spring of 2007, and we officially launched with our first album by Kapabel & Inf in December 2007.
The biggest obstacle to date just happened late last week. We released the new Skiggy Rapz album worldwide, and had to recall the entire pressing after it shipped because of an uncleared sample on his soon-to-be single “Today.” Skiggy pulled the sample, re-recorded the track, and is re-mastering the album now. I’m going to have to repress all the CDs, swap them out with from the existing stock, and re-release the album as soon as possible. When I heard the news, it just killed me. But, the single is poised to be a potential hit in Holland and I’d rather be inconvenienced than sued.
All the press on Beats Broke (that we encountered) points to Dutch hip hop - are you primarily a Dutch hip hop label? If not, what are your thoughts on being pigeonholed as that so far?
All our artists, with the exception of Max Fischer, live in Holland. I guess you could call me a Dutch hip-hop label, based in Austin. I don’t like that, but that’s what I am right now. Of course, I’m paranoid with the thought of being typecast. I want to work with more US artists, and I want to release more music outside of hip-hop. I’m currently working on an electronic album with a guy from Amsterdam, which is going to be fantastic. I’m also digging around for other artists I’d like to work with.
I also have to say that the Dutch cats I’m working with are not just random artists. They are all friends with each other. I was fortunate enough to tap into this incredible scene in Utrecht, Holland just crammed full of talent. It’s like the Omaha of indie rock. That being said, I have to make sure my existing artists love and respect any new artists I bring on board.
How did you get involved with Dutch hip hop? Do you feel you'd work with artists in any genre if they matched your vision?
The short version of the long story is one of Max Fischer’s friends studied abroad in Holland. He met Inf, and brought Inf’s album back to Max. They connected right around the time I started helping Max get organized in 2004. I got to know Inf through emails, and over the course of a few years we became great friends and the label developed as a way to support those two artists. Inf just brought his Dutch friends along for the ride.
I’m a pretty open-minded guy when it comes to music. If the vibe of a genre fits our aesthetic, I’m down for whatever I stumble across. Of course, our core is always based in the foundation of hip-hop funk, jazz, rock, soul. But if someone like Joanna Newsom came to me and freaked me out singing over a harp, I’d be totally into it.
Are their any local artists on your label? Anyone in town you'd like to bring on board?
There aren’t any local artists on Beats Broke, which is something I’d love to change once I find the right fit. Locally, I’m really digging the Octopus Project, and would love to work with them on something. Also, tell Chris Simpson I’ll talk if he records End Serenading 2.
The music industry seems to be in a state of turmoil of late -- what words of wisdom would you impart to new artists and young labels?
I’m still a newbie, so I’m looking into the mirror when I say this. Do it all yourself. Don’t wait around for a deal, make it happen now; no excuses. The economy is in shambles and everyone steals music. If you can endure these times, there’s no doubt you’ll be successful in the long term.
Thank you speaking with Austinist.
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