Vincent Gallo, Erik Erlandson present RRIICCEE

"only someone who has accomplished more than either of those artists has the right to say anything so negative about them, and even then it's in poor taste."

sieg heil, dood.

Not that it wasn't already obvious but... straight from the mouth of the man himself.

VG: Yep. All people are simply earthlings. To think of us any more segregated than that is buffoonery. OK, let's say human beings – you want to go that far? We're human beings, OK. To break it up into gay, black, African-American, Native American, vegan, vegetarian, raw-foodists, you know Buddhist, raw-foodist, vegan, homosexual, African-American, whatever it is that you decide to create for your identity in this mental world, which has nothing to do with your soul anyway. It's so embarrassing to me that I've created, let's say, a vocabulary or a character that sort of mocks and mimics that stuff, because the only thing I find entertaining about it is in humor. ... So I play this role. I use these slurs or these outlandish concepts, which are so obviously meant to be funny or absurdist, at least absurdist. No hate group has ever reached out to me. No gay-bashers, no homophobes, no nationalist, no right-wing Republican, no, you know, Christian, whatever you guys think I am. Whatever it is. None of them, people defined as the black shadow, have ever reached out to me in camaraderie. No one's ever written me an e-mail and said, "I'm a racist, too; I really like your website," or "I hate gays, too; you're a genius." What I do get, though is the most hateful spewing, horrifying, horrifying violent threatening ugliness from the socialistic idealists or the people who are caught up in protests, in righteousness. The most ugliness that you've ever read in your life. In your life. You know like: "I'm a fag, man. I've read what you wrote ... and I'm really offended. I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU, MAN!" Like that.

your response has only added evidence that you're a fan of negative passion without information. Why are people so NEGATIVE about Gallo ( why be as negative as ferg burglar about anything???)-- especially when they are apparently upset because of his supposed negativity? let the people enjoy the art thay're interested in and stop driving them away from an interesting show because you're sour. i'd have never said a word if the person who commented after you hadn't been dissuaded to see the show because of your comment. where do people get off on such negativity? only someone who has accomplished more than either of those artists has the right to say anything so negative about them, and even then it's in poor taste. My only hope is that you aren't preventing a small portion of Austin from seeing this show, that would be so unfortunate. Keep your negativity to yourself and let people who are genuinely interested in the art that this article is about engage in conversation. If you're not going to see the show, don't see it, but don't make other people think it's not worth seeing. I, for one, am glad not to have such a sourpuss in the audience. No more comments for me, this argument is pointless.

Warhol was a mediocre printer whose approache propelled him into mediocre stardom. Timing is everything.

And Gallo is the glossy-cover indie wannabe Miles Davis of Monday, December 3 in Austin, Texas. He's a derivative dillettante who's had his best successes when creating controversy.

I'm frankly bored.

Yes! A bucket of salt... I just have to add, since nobody can resist arguing anonymously, that your Warhol comparison is out there. Warhol is notable for turning commerce into art and art into commerce, think of the soupcans - also mass production and having other people execute his artwork... he had a band that he controlled, but he didn't play anything. He made films that were unscripted and often included people who didn't know they were on camera. He used a strobe/flash method of filming that nobody i know of has done since (including Vincent Gallo), etc, etc, etc.

Vincent Gallo is an absolute control freak. He doesn't let anyone do work for him, he does it himself. For Buff '66 he directed, acted, wrote the screenplay, did casting, even made Leila's costume. RRIICCEE is the OOPPOOSSIITTEE of commercialism, they aren't even recording an album and they're only playing the very smallest venues. He has a band, he's in it. On his albums, he plays every instrument, records on equipment he's collected in a studio he built, he mixes everything ... everything is done completely alone.

There are similarities - but who in the art world can claim to having nothing in common with any artist who cam before him/her? To make a statement like "Vincent Gallo is Warholist" is a sweeping statement that doesn't actually mean anything -but you're no stranger to sweeping statements: laissez-faire capitalist, social darwinist, egomaniac, sociopath and a comparison to Hitler - all point to the fact that you actually don't know all that much about Vincent Gallo.

I'm clearly a Gallo fan, but it isn't the fact that you dislike him that bothers me, it's your outrageous, hyperbolic, negative statements. But then again, maybe you're just being a sensationalist - and I suppose that in that case the joke is on me ...

Let's not bring polka into this argument. Also, Hitler's art sucked (perspective, hello?)

I'm surprised, in a good way, by the reactions to this post. Gallo could certainly be construed as a hard man to like, but for all his pretensions and egomanica I think it's a stretch to call him a Social Darwinist. The guy's a downtown New York artiste, and he's selling his sperm on the internet for $1 million, so I would take any outrageously bigoted comments he's made with a bucket of salt.

He has the same ethos as Warhol, ergo I call him a Warholist. And I don't decry him for being a Republican; I like Chuck Hagel and P.J. O'Rourke. I despise him for his views on social programs and his idolatry of abject racists and the modern Social Darwinist movement.

He's nothing more than an ill-informed laissez-faire capitalist, an egomaniac and a sociopath. Hitler may have put out some notable art; I wouldn't pay a dollar to see him do an avante-garde polka, though.

Passion without information is the hallmark of liberal radicalism and it's just as dangerous as conservative radicalism. It's easy to take one thing that Gallo says and make it sound as though that's all there is to him, he says a lot of things that make people angry and of course those are the only things that will reach uninformed ears because media loves negativity. it's also easy to call someone who is very accomplished (he ran away from home at 15 and became a well-known and respected and very successful musician, photographer, motorcycle racer, film maker and basically anything else you can name - and he started with absolutely nothing) a Warholist hack and make him sound as though his work ought to be dismissed. He's not a hack, and people who are actually familiar with his work wouldn't call him Warholist. Finally, it's easy to cry out "HE'S A REPUBLICAN" and have a thousand other small-minded people stamp him with the republican stamp and then every beautiful thing he creates is tainted by that knowledge.

It's fine to dislike Gallo's sensationalism (and that's all that is, sensationalism -- if you look at all of the things he's said and then see that his best friends are gays and jews you'll realize how obvious it is that he want to get a rise out of you). I also support disliking his aesthetic or his music -- both are occasionally masturbatory and predictable, but I am sick of hearing from everyone who knows nothing about Vincent Gallo that he is a horrible person not worth the time it takes to go out and see something you've never seen or heard before. Even if you don't like the music, this show is the first of its kind - and for a show with no setlist to be featured on MTV news and other big music is revolutionary and evidences that music is finally getting the chance to part from production company pop charts and is becoming more progressive-- I don't think it should be missed regardless of your prejudices.

"Don't you find it odd that if you segregate women, blacks, homosexuals and Jews, they vote in such radical numbers in one party? Where's the balance there?'"

Does Gallo not realize that the same comment could be made about stupid white men?

The show sounded interesting. I'm less inclined to go after reading this tripe.

IMHO, Vincent Gallo is a Warholist hack. And he's ideologically repugnant. To wit:

"...most of Gallo's fans probably also don't know that he's a Ronald Reagan-loving, full-blooded right-wing reactionary. Or maybe he wouldn't describe himself in those words, preferring instead to call himself a 'Constitutionalist.' Still, the awe with which Gallo describes Newt Gingrich or the glee with which he decries drug treatment programs paints a pretty stark political portrait....

'When I say I'm conservative, that's being radical, that's moving forward in a real way,' said Vincent. 'Liberals are small-minded manipulators; they pander to special interest groups just for the sake of power. Don't you find it odd that if you segregate women, blacks, homosexuals and Jews, they vote in such radical numbers in one party? Where's the balance there?'"

it ought to be mentioned, since this is the austinist, that one of the band members (nikolai haas) is an austinite

I dunno, Paris was sort of famous in 2001. She was in Zoolander as herself.

just call them double rice... that will tote piss them off.

Appears to be a fully formed, cohesive unit as far as I can tell. There's a vaguely informative article about them here:

http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=343616

A little worried that I wasted $20 but I suspect it will be pretty good.

Has anyone actually witnessed RRIICCEE that can speak concerning whether this is quality or schtick?