Austinist: Austinist Show Preview: Sonic Youth and Meat Puppets At Stubb's

guest

Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:26:11 -0600

I hate you all. Not ironic. Not snarkonic.

guest

Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:04:24 -0600

Reynard, seriously? You found a hotel room 2 months ago? I tried everywhere in Marfa and Alpine back in late June and they were all booked. commenter 27 sad, but will be at Stubb's tonight.

guest

Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:44:36 -0600

Wankers.

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:30:38 -0600

Snark. It's the new Irony.

Alan Sudo

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:15:26 -0600

1) If you go (to Stub's, not Marfa), be sure to head inside after Sonic Youth plays their last encore - local favs Peel are providing a free (with wristband) aftershow inside. 2) I take exception to the comment "but don't resort to petty profanity". Balls and fart face are petty profanity, fuck is some serious cussing. Respect.

heyzeus

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:28:06 -0600

It is all good indeed, Mr. Josh. Now on, I promise to just embrace the snark and forget about the national grammar rodeo.

reynard

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:15:23 -0600

well... I'd be snarky myself if I hadn't booked a hotel room almost two months ago. Because it's totes gonna suck for all those hipsters camping in the mud. ha ha

oh steph

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:30:58 -0600

Scooby - funny. I wish I had more chances to use Alanis Morissette jokes in day-to-day life. Josh, although cryptic at times, always seems to have the best intentions. I admit that I was confused by the tone of the piece as well, but I appreciate the nod to "Homerpalooza."

truecraig

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:24:05 -0600

Josh love Marfa. Josh love ironic sarcasm. Josh love candid discussions. Long live Josh love.

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:16:08 -0600

i think there might be a difference between saying something ironic and saying something that just isn't true. it needs to be a humorous contradiction, not just a flatout contradiction. i don't really understand what the author was trying to say either, so that's just my opinion.

joshuahuck

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:14:31 -0600

Just like in any other publication, if necessary, we sometimes need to clarify, correct ourselves, and - in this case - define our intentions. And Heyzeus, you make a good point. The article does have the potential to be confusing, I concede that. It was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek, and slightly jealous, rant. I guess some people got it and some people didn't. It's all good. At least I now feel like I have a deeper understanding of some important literary terms ;)

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:01:30 -0600

BUTTPOWER!!!!

brattpowered

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:56:54 -0600

Is it a contributing writer's job to argue with the commenters? Just saying....

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:54:31 -0600

heyzeus

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:48:36 -0600

Sure, attempt to claim the high ground now. Please read the comments. Several people called you on a confusingly bitter post about Marfa, not sure if you're being sarcastic and if so, for what purpose or point. You responded with "It's called irony, folks. Look it up." That's a childish response. Talk about "cheapening our discussion." Beside the fact that you actually meant sarcasm, which while related, is not the same as irony. I wouldn't have commented if you had scolded your readers with "It's called sarcasm, folks, look it up," except perhaps to point out that that's a pretty meaningless way to respond to your readers who aren't sure what point or issue if any you have with Judd, Marfa, Chinati, etc.

joshuahuck

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:19:59 -0600

A) No one suggested that sarcasm and irony were one and the same at any point in this forum/article. B) You (heyzeus) said that "sarcasm and irony are different things", implying that the author (me) doesn't know the difference. C) The author does know the difference, and re-asserts that sarcasm is a tributary of the great river that is Irony, and not the river itself. D) Be snarky if you must - Lord knows I can be - but don't resort to petty profanity, it cheapens our discussion.

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:12:36 -0600

ha! Marfa says, "I hope all you youngsters like our new dog pound cause that's where we're putting all you mangy mutts."

heyzeus

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:55:13 -0600

"Often times, people say something is ironic when it is actually sarcastic and vice versa because the two concepts have become so intertwined, whereas, in actuality, sarcasm is a concept that utilizes irony." So actually Professor Whogivesafuck, eat it.

joshuahuck

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:52:09 -0600

Actually, Professor Heyzeus, you're wrong: "Sarcasm is a form of verbal irony, expressing sneering, personal disapproval in the guise of praise." And if you couldn't tell, in referring to you as "Professor" I was being sarcastic.

heyzeus

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:46:27 -0600

sarcasm and irony are different things.

joshuahuck

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:26:50 -0600

Irony - n. - An intentional contradiction between what something appears to mean and what it really means. Irony is normally conveyed through contradictions between either what is said and what is meant or appearance and reality.

Scooby

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:21:15 -0600

Is that Alanis Morissette irony or real irony? Is it ironic that you are calling the lack of irony "irony"?

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:12:39 -0600

I can't wait until Beauty Bar Marfa's opening, y'all. Off the mufukin' chain! Sooooo minimalistical. I'm buying a headband for it today.

joshuahuck

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:30:22 -0600

It's called irony, folks. Look it up.

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:22:36 -0600

Marfa send you her love, joshuahuck!

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:22:00 -0600

yep, the only drunk 20 something hipsters i saw in marfa were in town from austin and into making a scene while taking pictures of themselves.

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:18:46 -0600

But if you would like to visit a town of 2400 people with a larger art presence than all of Austin AND see Sonic Youth for free on Saturday, then Marfa is your place. It's pretty, interesting, fun and you might learn something. Stubbs? Not so much.

guest

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:13:41 -0600

Your comments about Marfa couldn't be farther from the truth. Did you mistake Marfa for the Beauty Bar?