October 4, 2007
Austinist Show Preview: Sonic Youth and Meat Puppets At Stubb's
Marfa, TX is a tiny, strange place crawling with perpetually drunk twenty-somethings that fancy themselves as misfit "artists". The weather is nice, though. It's still not enough to make us want to drive seven hours this weekend to celebrate the megalomaniacal minimalist Donald Judd's legacy by taking tequila shots around a maypole. We're gonna save ourselves the nightmarish Orwellian experience that is worshipping a yankee carpetbagger and stick around Austin. Who in the hell needs Chinati weekend when Sonic Youth is playing right here at Stubb's? With the Meat Puppets, no less!
Sonic Youth is an experimental rock and roll group that's been around for a fair spell, and evidently made a big impression on some other bands with their loud, sometimes atonal caterwauling. They've made a lot of records and insist on making more, even though that can be weird sometimes for people who only bought Daydream Nation and another album they didn't like as much. Other people like all of their albums and will fight you over it. Kim Gordon, the bassist, is 54 years old (!).
Nirvana really liked them some Meat Puppets. Hence, we do as well.
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[Sonic Youth Official Site][Myspace]
[Meat Puppets Official Site][Myspace]
Sonic Youth
w/ Meat Puppets
Friday, October 5th
Stubb's, Outside Stage [Map]
Doors @ 7:00pm, $25 [Tickets]
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Your comments about Marfa couldn't be farther from the truth.
Did you mistake Marfa for the Beauty Bar?
But if you would like to visit a town of 2400 people with a larger art presence than all of Austin AND see Sonic Youth for free on Saturday, then Marfa is your place. It's pretty, interesting, fun and you might learn something. Stubbs? Not so much.
yep, the only drunk 20 something hipsters i saw in marfa were in town from austin and into making a scene while taking pictures of themselves.
Marfa send you her love, joshuahuck!
It's called irony, folks. Look it up.
I can't wait until Beauty Bar Marfa's opening, y'all. Off the mufukin' chain! Sooooo minimalistical. I'm buying a headband for it today.
Is that Alanis Morissette irony or real irony? Is it ironic that you are calling the lack of irony "irony"?
Irony - n. - An intentional contradiction between what something appears to mean and what it really means.
Irony is normally conveyed through contradictions between either what is said and what is meant or appearance and reality.
sarcasm and irony are different things.
Actually, Professor Heyzeus, you're wrong:
"Sarcasm is a form of verbal irony, expressing sneering, personal disapproval in the guise of praise."
And if you couldn't tell, in referring to you as "Professor" I was being sarcastic.
"Often times, people say something is ironic when it is actually sarcastic and vice versa because the two concepts have become so intertwined, whereas, in actuality, sarcasm is a concept that utilizes irony."
So actually Professor Whogivesafuck, eat it.
ha!
Marfa says, "I hope all you youngsters like our new dog pound cause that's where we're putting all you mangy mutts."
A) No one suggested that sarcasm and irony were one and the same at any point in this forum/article.
B) You (heyzeus) said that "sarcasm and irony are different things", implying that the author (me) doesn't know the difference.
C) The author does know the difference, and re-asserts that sarcasm is a tributary of the great river that is Irony, and not the river itself.
D) Be snarky if you must - Lord knows I can be - but don't resort to petty profanity, it cheapens our discussion.
Sure, attempt to claim the high ground now. Please read the comments. Several people called you on a confusingly bitter post about Marfa, not sure if you're being sarcastic and if so, for what purpose or point. You responded with
"It's called irony, folks. Look it up." That's a childish response. Talk about "cheapening our discussion." Beside the fact that you actually meant sarcasm, which while related, is not the same as irony. I wouldn't have commented if you had scolded your readers with "It's called sarcasm, folks, look it up," except perhaps to point out that that's a pretty meaningless way to respond to your readers who aren't sure what point or issue if any you have with Judd, Marfa, Chinati, etc.
Is it a contributing writer's job to argue with the commenters? Just saying....
BUTTPOWER!!!!
Just like in any other publication, if necessary, we sometimes need to clarify, correct ourselves, and - in this case - define our intentions.
And Heyzeus, you make a good point. The article does have the potential to be confusing, I concede that. It was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek, and slightly jealous, rant.
I guess some people got it and some people didn't. It's all good.
At least I now feel like I have a deeper understanding of some important literary terms ;)
i think there might be a difference between saying something ironic and saying something that just isn't true. it needs to be a humorous contradiction, not just a flatout contradiction. i don't really understand what the author was trying to say either, so that's just my opinion.
Josh love Marfa. Josh love ironic sarcasm. Josh love candid discussions.
Long live Josh love.
Scooby - funny. I wish I had more chances to use Alanis Morissette jokes in day-to-day life.
Josh, although cryptic at times, always seems to have the best intentions. I admit that I was confused by the tone of the piece as well, but I appreciate the nod to "Homerpalooza."
well... I'd be snarky myself if I hadn't booked a hotel room almost two months ago. Because it's totes gonna suck for all those hipsters camping in the mud. ha ha
It is all good indeed, Mr. Josh. Now on, I promise to just embrace the snark and forget about the national grammar rodeo.
1) If you go (to Stub's, not Marfa), be sure to head inside after Sonic Youth plays their last encore - local favs Peel are providing a free (with wristband) aftershow inside.
2) I take exception to the comment "but don't resort to petty profanity". Balls and fart face are petty profanity, fuck is some serious cussing. Respect.
Snark. It's the new Irony.
Wankers.
Reynard, seriously? You found a hotel room 2 months ago? I tried everywhere in Marfa and Alpine back in late June and they were all booked. commenter 27 sad, but will be at Stubb's tonight.
I hate you all.
Not ironic. Not snarkonic.