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<title>Austinist: The Pier on Lake Austin, Part Two (er, Three)</title>
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<title>Hache T</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:47:29 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Oops... I guess looking at the date before I post something would be good.  
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<title>Hache T</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:45:14 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I waited an hour and a half to get my $10 hamburger at Ski Shores Cafe the other day.  When we respectfully said this to the 18 yr-old-looking person behind the counter, her response was &quot;You don&apos;t have to come back.&quot;  Wow, customer service has come a long way.  Ski Shores has a monopoly on the upper end of the lake.  The Pier offered competition in the past and competition is always good for the consumer.  With a balanced community-involved dialogue, the Pier could be resurrected in a responsible manner.  
Saying that rebuilding the Pier would increase dangerous over-crowding of the lake is an unfounded.  Lake Austin will continue to be a dangerous place to boat and swim until a licensed boat operator discussion is seriously considered.  I&apos;m not saying that licensing would stop accidents completely but as a paramedic who has to respond to these injuries and deaths, I see it as a good start.  
Ultimately, my point is this:  The Pier (past and future) has no significant bearing on boater safety or crowding of the lake.  Even without live music, (although live music pointed downstream of across-the-lake campers would be preferable) the Pier needs to be resurrected.  This dialogue is important.  I would encourage everyone to attend this City Council meeting on September 4.   &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Grape Ape</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:15:02 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Development at that location is dead now, everything scrapped. There are no plans at this time and the owner is unaware of what he will do with the land now to my knowledge.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>austinite</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:03:04 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;why can&apos;t we just leave well enough alone?  What made (past tense) Austin unique was eclectic places like The Pier.  The opponents aren&apos;t just the wealthy landowning-neighbors (of which I wish I was one), but people who knew Austin way back in the 70&apos;s.  For years, boaters have figured out how much gas to put in their boats before heading out.  Let them keep figuring - it&apos;s good exercise for their minds as they age.  Just bring back a restaurant so there&apos;s somewhere to stop for lunch.  The cooler takes up alot of room on a boat.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:22:26 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;My family and I went to The Pier last Sunday although we thought we were going to Shades.  One of the old Pier owners partnered up w/ another restaurant/bar guy and took over the Shades location on Lake Travis.  Great place.  Wonder if they can re-open the old location.
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:42:56 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;There would be much more limitation with a boat barn launch, as there is only one fork lift.  It would probably take 10 minutes per boat.  That&apos;s probably about at the most 60 boats per day and probably 20-30 at a time.  Also we are only talking about 10 days a year that this is even going to be an issue.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:40:12 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;It keeps people off the lake because the launches limit the number of boats that can launch. This is essentially adding 180 boats to the lake on any given day seeing the launches always reach capacity on sunny nice weekends.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:04:52 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I still don&apos;t realize how not building a boat barn is going to stop growth on the lake.  More and more people will continue trailering their boats to the Lake no matter what happens, this just provides a convenient spot for people to eat, fill up their boat, and store their boat.  The fact of the matter is this is a commercial site and has always been.  The developers cut the music venue to appease the neighbors, but now they don&apos;t want the developers to make money on the property at all.

I have a feeling the neighbors would accept the project if the only people who could use it were waterfront owners.  I&apos;ve driven through the neighborhoods along the lake and the only people protesting are people who have the multimillion dollar waterfront properties.  Everyone else has their boat on a trailer in their yard... my point the traffic is already their this is mainly just shifting the boats from trailer to storage.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:48:58 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;You missed the point Kenneth. I don&apos;t live on Lake Austin, but I have been boating for 30 years. I&apos;m guessing you do not own a boat. The fact is, the waterways in Central Texas are overcrowded - the deaths every year on Travis show that. Lake Austin is about 300 yards wide and the area in question is quite dangerous, you already have on any given weekend day, kids swimming at CP, 10-20 idiot jet skiers riding around and cutting people off and then you have the 10-20 boats on the lake all trying to play in an area that&apos;s really small. I&apos;m all for people experiencing the lake, but not at the expense of the safety of other human beings.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Patrick C</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:16:45 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I pretty much lost interest in this as soon as I found out they&apos;re not planning on bringing back the music venue, which is bull. The old Pier was one of the most chill places to see live music in the city, even if it was all pretty much exclusively for the KGSR set.

Disappointed to hear it&apos;s gone for good.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>tim</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:23:54 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Lake Austin was built solely for cultured people like yourself with the money to buy $3 million waterfront mansions.

Well technically...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>kenneth1</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:55:27 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to agree that it would be horrible for Lake Austin. It is way too overcrowded as is and with too many idiots with money, the lake has become dangerous for people who actually know what they&apos;re doing on the water.

Yes, by all means we shouldn&apos;t let the unwashed masses occupy our sacred waterfront acreage. Lake Austin was built solely for cultured people like yourself with the money to buy $3 million waterfront mansions.
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:57:57 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;www.stoplake35.com is anotehr group opposing this and I have to agree that it would be horrible for Lake Austin. It is way too overcrowded as is and with too many idiots with money, the lake has become dangerous for people who actually know what they&apos;re doing on the water.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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