Austinist Interviews Donnie Darko's James Duval

james_duval_B_02-09-07.jpgIf you asked us what Richard Kelly’s 2001 sci-fi/thriller/mystery masterpiece Donnie Darko is about, we’d probably answer with something utterly inadequate like, “Um—it’s about a teenager, and a creepy bunny, and the end of the world”. But we’d also suggest that the only way you’ll ever understand what it's about is to watch it.

This weekend, you’ll get the chance to do just that as the Alamo Drafthouse presents a special screening of the cult hit introduced by Frank the Bunny himself, James Duval. We recently had a chance to chat with James (who is probably the coolest, nicest person on earth, by the way) about Donnie Darko, indie loyalty and giant spaceships.

You’re a huge sci-fi fan, I understand. Does that influence your choice of roles?

It definitely influences me, in that when something [sci-fi] comes up, I’m more excited about doing it than I would be a normal project. Us actors don’t love everything we get, but you try to make the best out of everything. So when you get something you really love, you can sink yourself right into it. You can just become that.

The first time I read the [Donnie Darko] script through it made a lot of sense to me—as far as alternate realities coming in and out, and the roles that people play in their lives, chosen and not chosen. It’s this weird, Twilight Zone-ish kind of thing, which I grew up a huge fan of.

It’s a movie inspires a lot of debate about its meaning. And there are a lot of visual things that happen during the film to help you understand what it’s about. When you were reading the script, did you necessarily understand it all right away?

Well, that happens in pieces. Firstly, all I have to understand is Frank, so I examined that more closely than anything else in the script, and how he plays into Donnie Darko’s journey.

It wasn’t difficult for me to make sense of it —it was kind of like splitting it in two. I just read it like, “here’s this supernatural guy”—and I always thought of [Frank] as a guy, because that’s what it felt like for me—“here’s this guy who’s a sort of dark guardian angel, so to speak. And then as soon as you meet him coming out of the car without his mask on, with both his eyes intact, and he’s kind of upset by what’s happened—well, that’s the kid”. So I started thinking, “this is when he’s a regular guy, and this is when he’s not.” And when he’s not, I was able to play this character, coming from the sci-fi world, that I would love to meet. He’s based on little pieces of characters form other movies who I felt were inspiring.

Is it strange that the movie has gotten this sort of delayed recognition? It initially wasn’t all that successful in the theatre, but it’s gone on to make something like ten million on video.

I’m kind of really surprised that [Donnie Darko] still has the life that it has. And I couldn’t be more thankful for it. I didn’t think that it was going to get a cult following like this, and I also certainly didn’t think it would make less than a million when we released it at the box office. But you never really know what a film’s gonna do.

I remember reading Independence Day and thinking, “This movie could be big”. But I didn’t really know. And Donnie Darko was the same thing—but again, being a fan of the genre, once I read it I thought, “God, this story’s amazing! I have to be a part of this.”

I remember seeing the original trailer for Independence Day in the theatre—the one that doesn’t reveal any actors or story or anything, but where they just blow up the White House. And the trailer ended, and my friends and I just looked at each other, speechless.

What’s incredible about that is that trailer was written by the director. He and the producer knew exactly what they were doing the whole time with that film. They came up with the whole idea [for the movie] on a whim, looking up at the sky and going, “you know what would be a great Friday night movie? A movie about spaceships covering the sky. And not like V where they’re three miles wide, but the WHOLE sky. Fifteen miles wide”. So they flew to Mexico and started writing the story, and three weeks later came back with Independence Day. They just had a good time writing it, and in the end it was a good, fun movie.

I’ve had a lot of people tell me it’s the worst movie ever, and with a movie like that I was just like, “Hey, that’s allright”. People also say things like, “You know, it’s not realistic” and stuff. And I say, “You’re right—but it’s also about aliens coming down to earth. You understand that, right?”’

Independence Day was one of your earliest movies—this huge, blockbuster movie. And yet when people describe you in the press, you’re often referred to as a sort of “indie loyalist”. Do you have any concept of that, or does it just work out that the people you want to work with are often indie filmmakers?

I don’t think there’s really a conflict there. But [my career has] certainly lent itself more toward the independent world. Most of my work comes from there as opposed to the studio world. But I think of myself as more of a thorn in the side of the studio world—they’d like me to go away, but I won’t (laughs).

I imagine there are more interesting things happening in the indie world as well.

There certainly are. That’s what it’s so exciting to be a part of; these voices that people don’t want to listen to or pay attention to, but that certainly have things to say. And Donnie Darko is one of those. And to be a part of that really is an amazing thing. I’m as excited now as I was the day that I read it.

I don’t know if you know this or not, but originally the part of Frank the Bunny was written for a six-foot-tall blonde person. I’m five-nine, and I’m certainly not blonde, as anybody can see. So it was great in another sense because I really didn’t expect to get that role when I went in, but I loved the script and I loved the character so much—it made so much sense to me.

james_duval_A_02-09-07.jpgAnd now you have a toy! They made a toy of Frank, which has to be a pretty cool thing.

Yeah – I can’t believe it! Coming from the world of collecting Star Wars toys when I was a young child, it was mind-blowing to be presented with the idea and to see it sort of come to life. And I’m actually friends with the guys who make it over at NECA, Randy Falk and Nicole Puzzo who does all the photographing and everything.

Especially with a movie like Donnie Darko where so much of it is visual, is it frightening knowing that so much of a film’s success depends on things that aren’t in your control? Does that ever make you nervous, or do you just not work with people who you wouldn’t trust with those things?

I never really think about who I’m avoiding working with so much as who I’d like to work with. Since I’m a big fan of film in general, and of the moviemaking process, I always figure there’s something new I can learn, or something new I didn’t see before in a genre that I could be a part of and get something out of.

You’ve spent some time here in Austin before, right?

Oh, I’ve been there quite a few times. In fact, I was just there about a month and a half ago. I was supposed to be there for two days and I ended up spending four days there. I couldn’t leave. It’s hard to leave A-town, it really is.

[At one point] I spent two weeks there prepping to shoot a film called Stamp & Deliver that ended up falling apart. I heard they were gonna make it a couple years later with one of the Wilsons, and I guess it didn’t happen for some reason. And whether I was in it or not, I was disappointed that they weren’t going to shoot it, because it’s still one of the best scripts I’ve ever read. But it’s so timely, that there’s just no way to do it today.

When we were getting ready to shoot it was in 96 or 97, and people were starting to get fax machines in their homes, but certainly not cell phones, and certainly not email and PCs for everybody. It was still a limited thing. And the film is centered around the arrival of technology versus regular mail—snail mail. Taking the time to write down what you though or felt on a piece of paper, rather than sending it through a machine in the blink of an eye.

Do you have any favorite things to do in Austin?

There’s a row of bars on [Red River], and we just went to town there. People started buying me rounds there and welcomed us to Austin and everything. So we went back the next night! I mean, you can’t beat that. You’ve gotta love a place with people like that. If you don’t you’re a moron. Or you’re evil.

You’ve lived in California for a long time, so it probably wasn’t a huge transition for you to be living the LA, actor lifestyle, was it?

No. Interestingly though, because I’ve grown up here I don’t have any illusions about the city that people who move here to become actors have. I’m kind of bored with the city in that sense.

I mean, I think I’m allright. I try to be balanced, living in a city as corrupt and as jaded as this. And a few friends have told me, “You know what? I think you’re not fucked up Jimmy. And it’s because you’re from here, and you’ve always known what it was”.

Being a California outsider and watching a movie like Doom Generation, it seems like LA is the only place that that film could take place and still make sense.

That movie is very Los Angeles. It’s centered around that. I think LA inspires Greg [Araki]. He’s inspired by the grandeur. To us, we do see it as this big colorful cartoon, where all the most outrageous things happen right in front of your eyes. It’s surreal – it’s hard to believe that people would do what they do right out on the street, in public, right in front of your eyes. I can’t believe it sometimes. This place is full of the strangest characters I’ve ever seen in my life.

That’s both cool and….

And frightening, yeah.

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