Austinist: Christians United For Israel: The Texas Connection

ahava bat levi

Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:26:40 -0600

Pray for a Huge revival in Israel this Shavuot

truecraig

Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:12:28 -0600

I just read W.T. Standard's quote there, and I have on initial, burning question. It's a two-parter, actually: 1. Who do you mean when you say "Israel"? You know that the area has been lived in for a long time, by more peoples than history accounts for (pretty much every ethnicity, at some point or another). So WHO exactly are the Christians supposed to be supporting? Whoever happens to be in control of Israel at the moment? It wasn't a Jewish state until after WWII, so you'll have to be more specific about your absolute prophecy or whatever you call it. 2. What is the "Standard" for the relationship between "Christians" and "Israel"? Are Christians the little brothers of Israelis (whoever happens to be living there?). Favored son vs. lesser son? More of a father-daughter thing? Manager-employee relationship, or what? I'm just trying to understand the basis of the pecking order for your interesting interpretation of god's (apparently elitist?) hierarchy. Fascinating stuff, regardless.

Buzzards of Bastrop

Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:05:29 -0600

Dear W. T. Standard: Please pull head out of ass.

W.T. Standard

Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:08:35 -0600

Christians are commanded to support Israel. This does not eminate from Dr. Hagee, but from God. True believers must support Israel and to do less would be disobedient. Dr. Hagee is only espousing the Word of God. That this is not popular in this day and time only serves to reinforce the validity and reality of Almighty God.

W.T. Standard

Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:00:47 -0600

Christians are commanded to support Israel and to do anything less would be disobedient. Dr. Hagee's allegiance is not to a person, a President, or even a country -- it is to God. True believers will support Israel even if the day comes when they have to leave America because of this belief. Allegiance to our God demands this.

Gilbert

Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:02:07 -0600

I believe that there is nothing Hagee does regarding Israel which is against the tax code. I don't think that comes into play unless you try to endorse a political candidate or party. I think it's expected that churches will become involved in political issues they feel strongly about. Given that, I really detest the man. Being Jewish and from San Antonio, It was really disheartening to see him being invited to speak at community events almost solely because of the amount of money and support he has given Israel. I realize there are a lot of people (particularly in Austin, I'd imagine) who aren't for the US supporting Israel, but please don't think that people like Hagee (and positions like his) are indicative of everyone who supports Israel in the US. Most of us are for peace, not trying to start some "war of the apocalypse" bullshit. (Sorry about the op-ed. It's just been very hard to watch people pointing fingers when they don't understand how hard--perhaps impossible--it is to find peaceful solutions, short or long term, for the region.)

kenneth

Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:17:46 -0600

[blockquote]From his pulpit in San Antonio, Hagee has gradually converted his vision for a secure Israel into a political agenda that dominates the present American ideological landscape.[/blockquote] Doesn't this violate Hagee's megachurch's nonprofit-tax exempt status? I thought churches weren't allowed to be overtly political.

eliz. s.

Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:15:41 -0600

Harper's had an excellent article about this same sort of topic a couple years ago. How much does this group influence White House policy? Too much, I fear. And it really is all about eschatology and how strongly they believe in it. Scary.