Would you fire this woman?
The AISD board voted yesterday to begin the termination process of Austin High art teacher Tamara Hoover after partially nude photos of her appeared on Flickr.
A fellow teacher was apparently bad mouthing Hoover recently in class when one of her students said something to the effect of, "Yea, well if you don't like her now, you oughta see these photos of her on the internet." The fellow teacher then asked the student to show her and the class the site. The student went to the the Flickr page of photographer Celesta Danger and showed the entire class artistic photos of Hoover posing both fully-clothed and partially nude. In some photos she appears alone and in others she is with another model. Of course, putting up the nudes of the beautiful teacher, along with dozens of nudes of other models, sent shockwaves through the school.
The board says it's justified in seeking termination due to a moral turpitude clause that prohibits "base, vile, or depraved acts that are intended to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of the actor." Call us silly, but we don't believe these photos warrant the description of base or vile, and certainly none of the acts are depraved.
This is a story about one teacher apparently not liking another and then being stupid enough to ask that a student show the entire class pictures that would lead to a scandal. Hoover, a teacher at Austin High since 2000, has been recognized by the board throughout her career as being an exemplary teacher who inspires her students. Hoover has hired an attorney to appeal her dismissal and has defended herself on a blog, saying that she did not tell students about the site and the pictures, nor did she have control over the pictures appearing on the site.
As the Statesman points out, one of her students anonymously defended the maligned teacher on Ms. Hoover's MySpace blog. "You do not deserve this," the student wrote. "It was my grandma's dying wish that I did something in the arts. . . . I feel like me being in your class would've made her very happy, and I know it made me very happy."
A quick postscript: we've met Ms. Hoover several times and can attest that she is a very kind and creative person who cares about her students. While we do think teachers must be careful to control their image, considering the often-hypocritical moral outrage of parents and fellow teachers, we don't believe that Ms. Hoover losing her job is justified. Neither does Education Austin, a 4,000-member group that represents teachers.
"Teachers need to be cautious because they are held to a higher standard," AE President Louis Malfaro said. "However, I think it's outrageous the way Tamara has been treated, and I'm glad she has herself a good lawyer... You can walk into most art galleries in this town and see the kind of artwork that was depicted on that Web site."
What do you think?
*Image (c) Celesta Danger from myspace*

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Seems like there should be a disciplinary hearing for the teacher and student that displayed the images in front of the class. SHE should be fired and the student suspended if these photos are actually used to terminate Ms. Hoover. (which they should not, she is an artist after all)
But..wait...wasn't Austin recently voted one of the more progressive cities in America by some magazine? I'm so confused!
It sucks. Wasn't there another teacher fired in the last year for some similar online thing? I think this is why people start setting their online profiles to private and friends-only. The conservative forces are out there ready to pounce on online expression, especially anything exposing skin, whether it's artistic or not.
Something's fishy. The photos on Danger's site are very tame. There's four of them in a shower, but they don't show anything "naughty." The remainder only show the two of them mugging for the camera or kissing in their undies. Methinks twasn't the nudity that got Ms. Hoover canned.
Morals indeed. What was the one teacher exhibiting when she was talking smack to her students about another teacher? Is destructive gossip in the workplace a good thing? At any rate, she should receive a reprimand for that. I would reprimand any of my employees that gossiped about other employees to the clients or anyone else.
I'm confused. The teacher had reason to believe the photos would be inappropriate and showed them to the class anyway. She was the one showing base and vile behavior as well as poor judgment. What if the photos had been pornography, then the class would have seen them?
BTW: The photos are fantastic. I wish someone would take such great photographs of me.
Ditto to scott and especially to anon. The vindictive teacher should be disciplined (and ideally get the boot, IMO). I would be furious if any of my kids' teachers were behaving in such a juvenile, unprofessional way.
I hope Ms. Hoover wins her case. I'm not sure things will ever be the same for her at her school, though, which is terribly unfair to her.
I agree - the photos are amazing...you could call them, "art" perhaps.
Even the nudes are artistically done, and in no way meant to arouse or gratify.
The case before in the other state, Florida I think, was a teacher who posed for the US Bikini Team.
This also shows the research skills of our students. When they fail to find sources for a paper, they now have no excuse because somehow they have the ability to find photos of their art teacher.
What a dumb mess! Do teachers really need to live in fear of being misunderstood for things that are not offensive to begin with yet sought out by people who will be offended by everything?!?
Also, with the vague, opinion based language that draws the line on what's ok, shouldn't it be completely rewritten in detail (especially now with everyone posting their entire life on the internet) since that's what this will come down to???
It's obvious that those were genuine artistic photographs but try telling that to a school kid who will only see "boobies" and a mean co-worker who will only see a way to get rid of the person they don't like...
If I'm Austin ISD, and I know that I'm an island of sanity in the middle of a mouth-breathing red-meat religious-right state that hates me with every fiber of their being, I err on the side of pushing this under the rug. Just sayin'.
Hey, the other anon, the poser. Stop using my name on this site.
I have to admit that this siuation is a set back for the proclaimed prgressiveness of Austin. It's to bad that the religious right has to have thier hands in everything. Why is there not going to be any review of any of them? Just a firing of the person who didn't show these to the class and who had photos taken of themselves. I have pictures of me on the beach in Mexico, should I be fired for being in shorts and no shirt? AISD is just ridiculous.
Isn't it legal for women to show their breasts in public in Austin? Was this breast baring done on school property, during school hours? Like, WTF?
I went to Austin High and we saw these photos almost 2 years ago...we knew that if they ever got out and if the Austin High mothers found out it would end up like this...
Apologies to anon
It is true that I don't read the comments page too often, otherwise I would not have inadverdently abbreviated anonymous.
I normally would use my name, but I desperately need paychecks and am in the process of applying with said evil school district.
Plus my anon. has a period as you can see, but I won't use it again. =)
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